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Navman PiN firmware upgrade.

Posted: 01:41 15 Feb 05 #1
  • AussieRodney
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I have followed the suggestion of someone on the SIRF II thread, to create this thread with an appropriate heading, to capture the attention of newbies to the Navman GPS, as I was just a few short weeks ago. The process described below has, according to all of the accounts on this forum so far (including mine), produced a dramatic improvement in the GPS reception of the PiN.

Go to www.fiddaman.info/navmanpin/download.htm & download the zip file. Unzip it & copy the 3 files into a new folder on your PiN. Tap on the exe file, tap on F/W Version & you should see something like: "Mitac Version 2.3.2-GSW2-2.05.024-C1PROD1.0_6A" - OK on that, then feed in the suggested bin & s file names & tap on Update. The process takes about 2 minutes to complete. If you then tap on F/W Version again, you should see something like: "Version 2.4.12.09-XMitac-C4PROD2.00000003729*76".

Hopefully, prepare to be amazed at the improved performance.
Posted: 15:41 15 Feb 05 #2
  • nicaf
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Help

I have followed the instructions but when it comes to updating the 'status' states "Transmitting target S-Records file.." and does not progress beyond that. If i reset and check the F/W version there is apparently no firmware. The Repair function will not restore. Any suggestions?

Posted: 17:16 16 Feb 05 #3
  • DBH
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Ouch! This is the first firmware failure report I've seen with the PiN. I hope that someone can help resolve this. It's a good reminder of the risks involved in updating firmware. I'm glad that I took the risk because the reward was great in terms of improved performance. But having had a bad computer mainboard bios flashing experience, I know how bad it feels when something like this goes wrong.
Posted: 10:53 21 Feb 05 #4
Worked fine for me DBH....
What 'S' File dod you use????

I used the 'MIO168_GPS_Firmware_R03.s' - the other one may not work on your particular model.


Toothy.
Posted: 03:53 22 Feb 05 #5
  • DBH
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Nick's the one who had the problem, not me. My update went like clockwork, as has everyone else's but Nick's. From what I've read, I believe that others have tried both 'S' files with success -- they function differently, but they both function.

This sounds more like a failure in the firmware update process. I don't fully understand how the firmware update works with a device like the PiN. That is, I don't know if it's like a computer mainboard, where if you have a bad BIOS flash that it can't be recovered and the device must be sent in for repair.

What we need here is someone with better technical knowledge.
Posted: 12:32 24 Feb 05 #6
  • pellis
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My update went OK too but I had to do a soft reset to get out of the update program.

I can now see satellites even through my Focus' heated windscreen.

Paul
Posted: 20:54 24 Feb 05 #7
  • AvronW
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This upgrade has worked wonders for my PiN...

After coming close to discarding it because it so seldom achieved a lock and was totally undependable, it now achieves a lock inside the house!

At last, this little machine is back in my good books.
Posted: 17:54 25 Feb 05 #8
  • DBH
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I wonder how many people have thought of discarding their PiN, or at least not using it so often, due to bad reception. Seems to me this could be a major customer satisfaction issue that might cause people to shop elsewhere next time rather than return to Navman.

Am I the only one who thinks that Navman is absolutely nuts not to encourage everyone to do this simple, free firmware update that turns the PiN from an OK device into a real customer pleaser?
Posted: 07:40 26 Feb 05 #9
  • sammy81
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Hi,

Im having the same problem as nicaf...... i copy over the firmware files (3 of them) and run the program. First of all, when I click on F/W version, it states "Read Failed!" And then I load in the loader and target file and hit update, the same message comes up every time: "Transmitting target S-Records file.." and it just stays at that. Can someone please help out?
Posted: 21:06 26 Feb 05 #10
Hi Sammy -

When you run the program, make sure you select 'Com2' (The port the GPS is operating on - by default) then click on F/W Version.

After this, find and load the 's & bin files'....Should work mate.


Toothy..
Posted: 00:11 27 Feb 05 #11
  • sammy81
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Ok,

upon opening the program..... i selected com2 and hit F/W version, it then states "COM2 can't be opened." and theres no way to go on from there.......
Posted: 14:57 27 Feb 05 #12
  • montag
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Have you checked that some other program is running and using GPS device ??? Stop any program and try again...
Posted: 03:06 03 Mar 05 #13
  • sammy81
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Thanks for the last 2 posts! I got this update to work now, works GREAT! but is there any way to get rid of that glare?
Posted: 08:12 03 Mar 05 #14
  • montag
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will you report if data on height of a location are correct, as I noticed about 50-70 meters higher that actual (1470 m instead of 1407 m)???

An Etrex Garmin seems more accurate!!!
Posted: 12:33 04 Mar 05 #15
  • pellis
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sammy81, you can turn down the screen backlight brightness in the Power option on the System tab of Start->Settings. At the bottom of the screen is 'Adjust backlight settings to conserve power'
Posted: 22:17 04 Mar 05 #16
  • Si H
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Sammy81,
I found using a screen protector helped.... you will lose image quality with one fitted.... however makes a big difference in sunlight...
Posted: 11:28 07 Mar 05 #17
  • DSE
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Hi, I have 2 Navman PiN's and both have a MFD of 10/2004. I tried the update on one of them as instructed and I came up with the same problem as nicaf, it works fine until you get to the "Transmitting Targets S-Records file...." and then it won't go any further! I tried to use the repair function but that doesn't work either, when I click on the F/W Version button now it says "Read Failed" and I can't get a GPS fix at all! Now it looks like I will have to send it in to repair? Nicaf, did you send your machine off to repair and if so did they cover it under warranty as the firmware was altered?

I have read both threads about the subject here and a few in other forums and it seems to be a general consensus that they give a great improvement to the GPS reception but I am unsure whether or not to try it on my other machine?


Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Posted: 10:25 08 Mar 05 #18
  • Adrian Reeve
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Nicaf, I have had the same experience exactly. I seem to have stuffed mu PIN and the repair function will not restore, just hangs, i seem to have corrupted something. Please advise - contact me adrian.reeve@btopenworld.com if you managed to solve your problem.

Much Appreciated - Adrian Reeve UK
Posted: 13:52 08 Mar 05 #19
  • nicaf
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Adrian. I did not manage to resolve the issue, so I returned the unit to Navman as it was under warranty. They have replaced the PDA with a brand new unit.
Posted: 16:48 08 Mar 05 #20
  • DBH
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It would certainly be good to know what is going wrong in the few cases of firmware upgrade failure. Obviously, if there is any way to prevent this from happening, everyone would benefit. I wish I understood more about the process. I just followed the directions as closely as possible, and it worked for me.
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